and he gave us the opportunity to choose what will be best for us. people -- well the republican party needs to stop pointing fingers at obama, making it seem like he put us where we are. we are where we are because we cannot come together as one and help the people of america. >> let me ask you a question, was there in your mind a defining moment in this campaign that ensured the president's re-election? >> yes. i believe the last debate when mitt romney clearly stated that he said, i wanted detroit to go bankrupt -- or i wanted -- i'm sorry, he wanted the state to go bankrupt and the government -- the governor said we were going to back them up or whatever the conversation was and obama clearly told him, no, that's not true. and i think right then, when he couldn't even come back with a response and the -- response and the republican party wanted to look at that as if he was being humbled and the american people look at it as, you were blatantly lying. you just lied. it's ok if you want to lie to your people but when it comes to lying to people tha